You all have to see this

[bbeanan]

take a look at:

http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html

It all happened in real life no CG at all (only 606 takes to get it perfect... one continuous shot)

[Titus]

This is an urban legend. This ad has a lot of heavy compositing.

[bbeanan]

Sorry but you are wrong and here is the proof:

http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/hondacog.asp
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/13/nhonda13.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/13/ixhome.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/business/1051618164120441.xml?oregonian?fng
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43452
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/media/story.jsp?story=396534
http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/honda_launches_stylish_new_accord_06_04_03.asp
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43452


Snopes.com does nothing but to prove if Urban Lagends are realy or not... and they like MANY MANY other all say it's legit (granted it was done in 2 takes since the room was to small, and so complex)

Unless you have proof showing otherwise... :D:rolleyes:

[Titus]

All right, if you say so...

A bunch of web sites proof nothing. First hand sources are the only important. If you still beleive this legend just use your common sense.

[bbeanan]

As I said post your proof, I would love to hear that it was a great PR job and they really did fool everyone. But without proof your comments have no merit.

I just want to give credit where credit is due... if it was the work of a great "Practical" Effects team then they should be given credit, if it was the work of a great CG team then they too should get the credit, as well as the PR team who fooled some of the top newspapers, journals and television news teams.

Do you know a person who worked on the project? Because hey I would love to break this story...

[bbeanan]

oh as for common sense... everything that happens can be replicated, not 1 thing was impossible to do for real. I actually think it would have been more work to do it in CG and make it look "that real"

[weaponsInspecto]

This type of Rube Goldberg stuff was done by a couple of fellas as a perfomance art piece years and years ago. Theirs was shot on 16mm and had several dissolves. The entire film runs 30 minutes. It's called "The Way Things Go" and was done in 1978 by Peter Fischli and David Weiss, a couple of Swiss artists. Its available from First Run/Icarus Films. Available through Netflicks.

As far as Honda's imatation beingt all real, or all CG, I won't guess. I have come to believe that nothing is real until I see it happen first hand.

[dch]

The most obvious unnatural motion in the ad is when the tires roll up the ramp. The first tire that begins its roll after being hit by the radiator obviously does not have enough speed to roll up to the top of the ramp on its own, and if it does not have the energy to reach the top then there is no way a chain of collisions will reach the top either because, as every engineer knows, each tire collision will not transfer all of its energy to the following tire in the form of motion (some of the energy is disapated by the give and take of the two rubber surfaces as they compress together).

If that isn't enough look at the second to last tire on the ramp, it actually accelerates after being hit by the previous tire. This is physically impossible without some other outside force being exerted.

Also notice that the second to last tire continues rolling up the ramp after it hits the last tire, this would only happen if the second to last tire had more mass than the last tire, and from the looks of the speed it would have to be about twice as massive as the last tire.

And my last observation about the tires; notice that you don't see any of them begin to roll back down the ramp after they have dissapated all their energy.

The tires don't prove that any CG was used to make the ad but they do indicate that nature was given some assistance.

I also doubt that you could get a muffler to roll like they do, but that's just my gut feeling.

David Hunt

[bbeanan]

The tire thing was explained in an artical, that said the added weights to the inside of each tire... had it been CG the could have... would have made the second tire just stop after impact.

[dch]

The weighted tires would definitely work. There are several other parts that I would be interested in knowing how they pulled it off.

This is definitely great advertising.

David Hunt

[bbeanan]

try reading:

http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/hondacog.asp

They go setp by step on how it worked