View Full Version : How to Make a DVE
lvsoule
08-31-2007, 01:04 PM
I'm beating a dead horse with this one, but I really really reallly want to make a DVE. I don't have time to figure out lightwave. Can I take a .rtv and change the extension. The DVE's I'm looking for don't need to be 3D. 3D would be nice, but I just need something quick for our replays for football. Any help or if anyone would build one for me LMK costs etc....
thanks
-Larry
rbartlett
08-31-2007, 01:35 PM
Try these tutorials - for Aura mostly, therefore 2D or 2.5D :
http://www.digitaljuice.com/magazine/articles/2003_12_etk.asp
http://www.newtekpro.com/AuraInsider/aura/articles/retro-tut/retro1.html
https://www.vtknowledge.com/index.php?action=viewtutorial&id=Aura%20DVE%20Builder
You can't change the extension. The FX need to be 'compiled' but Aura is the best introduction to such technology.
Perhaps describe what you are looking to do, or post a still of what you've done so far somethere and what trajectory you'd like it to have. Then maybe, just maybe someone will step in and create this for you. I'm not suggesting they will, but it isn't beyond the realms of fantasy. The above links should be a good intro, of that I'm sure.
Is this for PAL-576 or NTSC-486 lines?
lvsoule
08-31-2007, 02:30 PM
What I figure is I'll use a digital juice moving video thingy then add Top of Utah Television that flies pas the screen. This would be done for Replays. I've given up on 3D stuff so I can build everything in Photoshop except DJ - then I guess take it into Aura and export or something??? I gotta get our game going for today and I'll use the DDR with alpha for Now(Lower thirds). If I could get the timing just right, I could use the DDR as a transition, but that would be a pain and there's too much room for error
thanks
-Larry
Rich Deustachio
08-31-2007, 02:45 PM
Once again this is why we need an easy to use DVE creation tool.
How is that new project coming Don?
lvsoule
09-03-2007, 03:05 PM
Ok rbartlett pushed me in the right direction. So far I figure to do a DVE- You gotta build an effect in Lightwave, then take and chop the ends so there is alpha on them- or it will stay at end of transition- VT-Edit will do this- save out as alpha. Then take it into Aura and use the filter/transitions/VT Wipe Builder.
I haven't successfully got it to work, but I now feel I have all the components to get this bad boy to work.
lvsoule
09-03-2007, 03:18 PM
Now I've got a transition built and I want it to make the switcher switch to whatever is on the preview channel at roughly 50%. Other transitions obviously do something like this. Any suggestions would be awesome.
SBowie
09-04-2007, 08:34 AM
Not to be facetious, but my suggestion is to carefully read the docs for the (Aura) VT Wipe Builder, then experiment a bit. It sounds like all you are doing is creating the overlay part of the DVE, without an actual transition. Once you get the hang of it, you can do a lot with the Aura DVE tool.
billmi
09-04-2007, 08:49 AM
Now I've got a transition built and I want it to make the switcher switch to whatever is on the preview channel at roughly 50%. Other transitions obviously do something like this. Any suggestions would be awesome.
Shift-H will move the T-Bar to 50%. Shift-Space will move it back up to the top.
vanderwielen
09-09-2007, 08:40 PM
I've built DVEs for sports from the digital juice wipes. I agree that you have to experiment and read the tutorials, though they generally are poorly written. The wipes are super professional with spinning footballs, basketball, rotating and dissolving sports objects. It sure give the big time look. I'd write a tutorial, but honestly, i have re-experiment a little each time i build one and it would take all day to document it...so be patient...and play around.
lvsoule
09-09-2007, 09:36 PM
I agree it's tought to explain to others how to do things. When I get some time I'll go through the DVE's in Aura. I now have some basic ideas to grasp & work from there.
lvsoule
11-27-2007, 10:57 PM
Does anyone know where the transition builder went in VT5?
lvsoule
11-27-2007, 11:23 PM
I can't find the manual for Video Paint (Aura) is it supposed to come with VT5? I want to try to make some more DVE's in VT5- with VT5 installed my old VT4.6 no longer will run Aura so I'm kind of stuck??
Paul Lara
11-28-2007, 06:14 PM
You can download the Aura PDF manual HERE (ftp://ftp.newtek.com/pub/Aura/).
SteelPicR
12-25-2007, 11:35 PM
Does anyone know where the transition builder went in VT5?
I too need the wipe builder. What happen to it in VT5? Is this another licensing issue that NT didn't warn us about. It gets real frustrating when the upgrades go backwards in some areas or when you go to create something for a project that you have done before only to find out that the tool is no longer there. Is there another new and improved way to make the DVE wipes in Aura without the wipe builder that I don't know about?
SBowie
12-26-2007, 08:58 AM
I expect the original Wipe Builder still works, though I've not tested it. It's pretty small - I doubt anyone would mind if I emailed it to you. Drop me a line offlist.
SteelPicR
12-26-2007, 11:02 AM
Steve to the recue again! Thanks.
Randall Chesbro
12-26-2007, 03:07 PM
If you were able to get your DJ clips to work as a .DVE but are having a problem with the point they are switching. you need to know that you need to add a layer in Aura as black up to the point you want the transition to take place and then change it to white for the rest of the clip. the black and white might have to be reversed. but that tells what channel its switching.
something like that.
Kurt_Henning
12-26-2007, 04:13 PM
There is also this link, to the :lwicon: LightWave side of things
http://www.newtek.com/vt/downloads/dve_creation_kit.php
This is technically for :vticon: VT2, but Paul L can likely tell if it will still work with VT5. :thumbsup:
This is not Aura, but it is your other way to make DVEs with the VT system.
Cheers to a successful DVE
creach
12-26-2007, 05:38 PM
Building DVEs is VERY easy. There is a fabulous, easy-to-use tutorial here in the first post of this thread.
http://www.newtek.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71082&highlight=dves
I started this thread not too long ago when I set out to make my own specialized DVEs. Trust me, if I can do it, you will have NO problem.
That being said, you could have made a buncha DVEs in the time it took to let this thread develop! :)
Good luck!
Dan
RobertRhino
01-10-2008, 11:26 AM
I have video tutorials available for DVE creation with Aura for VT Switcher, VT Edit, Speed Edit and Tricaster.
Robert
billmi
01-11-2008, 08:08 AM
This is technically for :vticon: VT2, but Paul L can likely tell if it will still work with VT5. :thumbsup:
Yes, it does. The DVE format is the same for VT[2] and newer as well as the Tricaster line.
It's a much more powerfull way - using LW allows for warps and scaling of the video, Aura can only create wipes.
SBowie
01-11-2008, 10:39 AM
To be clear, as I am sure not everyone realizes it, the Aura Wipe Builder can add motion - pushes and pulls (as opposed to simple dynamic alpha wipes.)
By default, video is stationary and centered in the frame. The alpha
channel merely acts to “wipe” video on or off the frame. However, if you create keys for the Transition Pos X and Transition Pos Y settings on the transition layer—as you can for any animatable filter—, the position of the video using the opaque pixels can be animated creating a push or pull type transition.
That said, the LW tool is much more powerful, at the expense of longer render times.
billmi
01-11-2008, 02:13 PM
To be clear, as I am sure not everyone realizes it, the Aura Wipe Builder can add motion - pushes and pulls (as opposed to simple dynamic alpha wipes.)
I think I'm going to have to pester you for the long documentation on that then :-)
That said, the LW tool is much more powerful, at the expense of longer render times.
Yes - and as far as I can tell from watching CPU loads, it is single-threaded only so CPU clock speed counts more than quantity of cores, unless you're set up for distributed rendering.
SBowie
01-11-2008, 02:37 PM
I think I'm going to have to pester you for the long documentation on that then :-)Feel free, Bil - just email me ... although I think the longer doc is in the zip I posted elsewhere in these forums recently.
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